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  • Thursday, July 23, 2009

    Jimmy Carter and Position on Women

    Jimmy Carter fails to distinguish between the EQUALITY of women and men (in Christ) with the distinct ROLES of women and men (in Christ). Galatians 3:28 is a passage which speaks to the equality, while many other passages (Eph 5:22, Gen 3:16, Col 3:18, Titus 2:5, etc.) speak to difference in roles. A passage which speaks to both the dignity of women and difference in role is 1 Peter 3:5-7.

    Carter's own words show his failure to distinguish between these differences when he states: "The justification of discrimination against women and girls on grounds of religion or tradition, as if it were prescribed by a Higher Authority, is unacceptable." Surely, while we are to recognize the equality of women and girls when it comes to their being created in the image of God, does not his own statement suggest there are differences, and should we not recognize difference in roles (even while recognizing equality as persons)?

    Carter's own statement - "Although not having training in religion or theology..." explains alot.

    Cal Thomas's article "Theological Makeovers" in World Magazine is worth the read.

    Also worth the read is the blog post by Al Mohler where he states:

    All this fits a pattern for which Mr. Carter is now well known. He simply rejects the texts in the Bible that clearly establish different roles for men and women in the church and the home. He dismisses these verses for the simple reason that he also rejects the inerrancy of the Bible.


    (See below for verses)


    Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.

    Genesis 3:16 o the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."

    Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

    Titus 2:5 o be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

    1 Peter 3:5-7 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. 7 Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

    ... Interesting, isn't it, that Jimmy Carter doesn't mention or deal with any of these verses!

    3 comments:

    jazzycat said...

    Mr. Carter leans heavily on his own understanding. Unfortunately his understand is extremely flawed in many areas.......

    marnie said...

    I think he doesn't mention those quotes from the Bible because they were written quite a long time ago when women had not successfully challenged their position as subordinate to men. Today women have made some progress in this respect and hopefully will continue to do so.

    swordbearer said...

    Marnie,

    Your argument is just as old and tiring.

    1. It fails to take into account that Christ and his his disciples (along with the inspired writers of Scripture) were revolutionaries and not afraid of being "counter cultural" (note - if there have been any in the world this phrase describes ... it was them").

    2. It fails to acknowledge that the role Christianity has played in the liberation of women.

    3. It fails to address capacities or settings when discussing subordination.

    4. It fails to provide a basis for authority as well as grounds or justification for the position taken (i.e., apart from absolute truth, whose to say ... & would it not be just as valid for previous positions related to the subordination of women to be just as correct; ... and before you say "but we all know", make sure you're able to provide justification for believing or acting upon one's feelings/conscience)