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  • Friday, September 26, 2008

    The Real Jesus

    Part I


    Part II


    Part III


    Part IV


    Part V


    Part VI


    Part VII


    Part VIII


    Part IX


    Part X

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    Thursday, September 25, 2008

    Darwinian "Natural Selector" Finn Kills 10 - Finnland Mulls Tighter Gun Control

    Story here

    Incredible cognizant dissonance - instead of mulling the worldview that causes this insanity, blame the gun...


    Modified to add:

    In cyberspace, a young man with short blond hair calling himself Sturmgeist89 - presumed to be the school gunman - had spent the past few weeks broadcasting an extremist world view, weaving together far-left and neo-Nazi strands.

    Together it formed what he called the "Manifesto of a Natural Selector".

    "I cannot say that I am of the same race as this miserable, arrogant and selfish human race. No! I have evolved a step higher," he wrote in a blog.

    In his account on the video-sharing website YouTube, which he accessed for the last time just hours before the shooting, Sturmgeist89 wrote he was "prepared to fight and die for my cause".

    "I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection."


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    Wednesday, September 24, 2008

    Christian Response to Clay Aiken "I'm Gay"

    Just about a week after Ray Boltz, now Clay Aiken, who is referred to as a "born again Christian" admits to being gay. Beyond the label, what do the details reveal?

    At this point, the only information I've seen comes from People Magazine: Clay Aiken: I'm a Gay Dad.

    Let's look to the details of the article:

    Says Aiken: "I have no idea if he'll be gay or straight. It's not something I'll have anything to do with, or that he'll have anything to do with. It's already probably up inside the code there ...


    Aiken here seems to place all the responsibility on the "code", that is, I assume his genetics, and therefore if it's in his genetics, then it must be okay. So, examine the logic in this, if a person discovers in a particular situation their natural response is to lie, does that make lying okay? Should we then affirm the practice of lying? Suppose a person is born with a nature of malice, or greed, or coveting, or lust, are we then to accept such practices and rather than repent and turn from them not only normalize them but encourage them? This is no more than shifting blame (and if nothing else denying the effects of the fall), which is inconsistent with true Chrisitianity. Whether Aiken is really a Christian but only inconsistent in this area or whether he is not a Christian at all I do not know, but what is clear that that his statement in this area is inconsistent with both biblical teaching and biblical repentance and righteousness.

    As for his own child, Aiken tells PEOPLE that Parker – who was conceived via in vitro fertilization with his best friend, music producer Jaymes Foster – will be raised in an environment that is "accepting and allowing him to be happy."


    1. This seems telling as to Aiken's thinking and motivations being grounded upon happiness rather than holiness. Consider the outcome of consistency with that framework. Who could even condone Hitler for was not what he did pleasing to him and did it not make him happy? The same could be said when it comes to the justification of some mothers who abort their children, to some criminals who get satisfaction out of hurting others, etc. This is no basis for ethical living, only an excuse for justifying whatever one wants to do.

    2. Note how unnatural and broken the various relationships and acts are when one chooses such a path. Aiken admits he gay, but has a child with Jaymes Foster (a female, and out of wedlock), it's reported this was done by artificial insemination, and now explanations will have to be made to the child, along with additional stresses in life because of entangled and uncommitted relationships.

    So what was his mom's reaction? "She started crying. She was obviously somewhat stunned. But she was very supportive and very comforting." Even now, Aiken admits, "She still struggles with things quite a bit, but she's come a long way."


    Here, we find, it's not Clay, but the mother who has the "problems"... how interesting a twist!

    "I cannot raise a child to lie or to hide things. I wasn't raised that way, and I'm not going to raise a child to do that."


    While on one level this is good, and while on one level it also seems to set Clay in a good light; at the same time:
    1. Clay himself is failing to live in keeping with his own upbringing (gender recognition relationships)
    2. Clay fails to go beyond truthfulness to teach and demonstrate repentance. (i.e., while upholding one virtue is good, denying another is not)

    He adds that he hopes his fans "know that I've never intended to lie to anybody at all. ... But if they leave, I don't want them to leave hating me."


    Some may leave hating, but Christians ought to have pity and pray for his deliverance and redemption.

    Says Aiken: "I have no idea if he'll be gay or straight. It's not something I'll have anything to do with,


    Not true. Parents serve as role models, and while individuals can choose for themselves, that doesn't deny our influence by the repeated things of what we say and do.

    ====

    I wish Clay the best. By that, I mean I mean him no harm and have written this only for the following purposes:
    1. To distinguish between Christian truth and the inconsistency shown in his practice and statements.
    2. In the hope that Clay himself might come across it and reexamine his thoughts, practice and the basis he uses to justify them, and that he might come to repentance
    3. That others might either be prevented from blindly following his example or be rescued from the same predicament or the same thinking and lifestyle.
    4. To display the excellence and sensibleness of the Christian way.

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    Monday, September 22, 2008

    Ten Questions to Ask Your Pastor, Reverend, Minister, or Priest - Answered

    Original questions posted here... - my hastily composed answers below:

    1. Biblical Law. Matthew 5:17-18 says quite clearly that Jesus demands Christians follow Old Testament law completely, to the smallest possible point. Why don’t they?

    Matthew 5:17-18 17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

    Answer: Actually, the passage says that Jesus came to fulfill the Law. His righteousness in fulfilling the law through His perfect obedience is credited to His children.

    Romans 5:19
    For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.


    2. Infanticide. The modern Christian churches of the world tend to gloss the fact that God is a child killer—the 10th plague in Egypt—and say that Jesus set this right. Ignoring for a moment that the crucifixion is just one more child killing to fulfill God’s will, why does Jesus say He also will kill children in Revelation 2:23?

    Answer: Actually, the Rev 2:23 passage is referring to the followers of the evil prophetess Jezebel as her children, just as followers of Christ are called the children of God.

    For example:

    John 1:12
    But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,


    As far as the death of children in general are concerned, there is compelling evidence in Scripture that children, in general, are credited salvation if they die in childhood - Jesus displayed God's disposition toward children:

    Matthew 19:14
    but Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven."


    So, for children, dying in childhood...

    Philippians 1:21
    For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

    And only God has the right to disposition His creation - not Man.

    3. Fact or Allegory. The Bible says the Earth is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old, that it was created in 7 days, and that Man is made of dirt and Woman a piece of Man. Most churches today say that this is allegory. What passages of the Bible support it all being just allegory?

    This is a multi-part answer, but in short, I do not believe in the 100% allegorical nature of Genesis - it is a slippery slope of never-ending capitulation:

    a. Where does the Bible say Earth is between 6 and 8k old? How much time does the Bible record between the creation of earth and the Fall of Man? There is reason to believe that the recording of time began at the Fall, since prior to that Man did not age, so there was no reason to count the years. There could have been millions or billions of years between that time.

    b. As far as the 7 day creation - there was no 7 day creation - it was 6 days. Anyway, why should we not believe the 6 day account, if we believe in an omnipotent God? What is your source of truth - God's Word or Man's presupposition-driven scientific theory? Can you go into the past and prove for certain that the Scriptural account is not literally true? I trust a holy God and am skeptical of flawed Man.

    c. What reason do we have to believe that Man was not created from the dust and Woman out of Man? Man comes out of Woman today, right?

    4. Needle’s Eye. Jesus said rich men don’t go to Heaven easily and even implied that it wasn’t possible. Why are so many people with money and property Christian if they are probably going to Hell?

    Answer: Read this - I found it informative. Bottom line - the Scripture you reference is typical rabbinic hyperbole to illustrate the improbability of a rich man trusting God over his wealth.

    5. Apocrypha and Biblical Revisions. The Bible of 400 CE and the Bible today differ by dozens of chapters and thousands of parts. Which Bible is the word of God and why does man edit it?

    Answer: Not one of the textual variants changes a single orthodox teaching - get over it. God has preserved His truth.

    Said another way: God through His providence, ensured that all but 5 New Testament books that are in our canon today, received universal acceptance from 100 AD forward. Now imagine for a moment if we removed the "disputed" books from our canon: 2 Peter, James, 2 Jn, 3 Jn, Revelation. (not that I am suggesting that of course) What doctrines would you not be able to prove without these books? None! This is what I believe Jesus meant when he said, "Scripture cannot be broken." and 1 Peter 1:23 that the "word of the Lord endures forever." And the word of God is "living, and active, and sharper than any two edged sword" (Heb 4:12)

    from here

    6. Born Fallen. Even in this global age there are millions of persons who never hear the Good News. We are born in sin. Do some go to Hell just because of their birth circumstances?

    Answer: As Scripture proclaims...

    Psalm 3:8
    Salvation belongs to the LORD

    John 14:6

    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    Who God elects for salvation is His choice, made possible through Christ, apart from any circumstance.

    7. Graven Images. Isn’t wearing the cross and making statues and movies of the life of the Christ a violation of the 2nd Commandment? “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image…”

    Answer: If you are worshiping these things, yes. If you dishonor Christ while wearing these symbols, yes. Otherwise, no.

    8. Inquisitions, Crusades, Witch Trials. Historians put the number of those killed and executed by Christian churches at between 2 and 15 million; mostly Jews, witches/pagans, and Muslims. Do Christians retain this murderous nature? If not, why not?

    Answer:
    "Love God, love your neighbor" is at the core of the Christian faith. It is true that people have been killed by folks claiming Christ, but actions speak louder than words.

    Also - in contrast - the 2 and 15 million is over the span of 2000 years - the governments claiming secular or atheistic principles murdered over 100 million in the first half of the 20th century! I'd be careful at whom I point fingers.

    9. Turn the other Cheek. Jesus instructs the saved to love and to forgive even deadly insults (Matthew 5:44: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” et cetera). Why do no prominent Christian leaders seem to follow this?

    Answer:
    Claiming Christ and emulating Him are 2 different things. Look to Christ, not sinful Man, as your example. The prominent Christian leaders I look to do follow His example, while admitting their own sinfulness and at the same time, setting it aside to honor Jesus.

    10. Free will. Freedom to choose is given to man by God. Man has two main choices: 1) accept the Love of God and, upon death, go to paradise for eternity, 2) Refuse God and, upon death, just die, be utterly damned. How is that freedom of choice when it is the same thing as a gun to your head?

    Answer:
    Free will only existed prior to the Fall of man (that is, if the condition exists at all - I think the term falls in the same order as a "square circle" - a contradiction in terms) - the Bible clearly teaches that post-Fall, "there is none who does good" and "all have sinned" and "anyone that has sinned is a slave to sin" - therefore it is an act of supreme mercy that God chooses anyone from out of prideful and sin-enslaved Man.

    Soli Deo Gloria!......

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    Saturday, September 20, 2008

    A Weakness of a Strong Church (/denomination) which Denies Connectionalism

    Nationally, the Southern Baptists have adopted statements discouraging women from being pastors, but their 42,000 U.S. churches are independent and a few have selected women to lead their congregations.


    Quote taken from here.

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    Friday, September 19, 2008

    Our Spiritual Beliefs and Knowledge Should Inform and Affect our Attitude and Practice in Spiritual Debate

    Over at Reformation 21, Dr. Ligon Duncan provides some insightful quotations from John Newton that link our beliefs with our practice when it comes to conversing with others in religious debate.

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    Vatican Denounces Creationism, touts Evolution, attacks the Scripture

    A professor of Vatican university verbally attacked creationism and fundamentalists while touting the merits of Darwinian evolution according to a Foxnews.com article.

    ......
    Take time to read the article. I think you will be shocked. Take for example the following quote, "Creationism from a strictly theological view makes sense, but when it is used in scientific fields it becomes useless," Ravasi said. What exactly does a statement like this mean? That special creation has theological value but no practical value? Let Pope Benedict himself tell you, "the word of God can never simply be equated with the letter of the text"

    Ministries such as Answers In Genesis that work in the field of creation science have been unambigious about what the real issue is. In an article on their website, Ken Ham has explicitly stated, "AiG’s main thrust is NOT ‘young Earth’ as such; our emphasis is on Biblical authority."

    These statements from the Vatican clearly show that the battleground is not set upon scientific theory. The battlelines are as old as the papacy itself: Sola Scriptura. The pope has declared, "excludes by its nature everything that today is known as fundamentalism"

    Contrast this to J.A. Wylie's account of a statement by the Archbishop of Mainz in his History of Protestantism, Volume 1, p.4 "Musculus says that many of them never saw the Scriptures in all their lives. It would seem incredible, but it is delivered by no less an authority than Amama, that an Archbishop of Mainz, lighting upon a Bible and looking into it, expressed himself thus: 'Of a truth I do not know what book this is, but I perceive everything in it is against us.'"

    Mark it well my brethren, the papacy has not changed its stand against the authority of Holy Scripture to usurp it with their own. These issues while surrounding the subject of historical and biological science are truly a battle being waged upon the authority and sufficiency of Holy Scripture.

    The 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, together with the Westminster Confession of Faith, states: "The supreme judge, by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Scripture delivered by the Spirit, into which Scripture so delivered, our faith is finally resolved."

    Let this be the plumbline by which we judge this controversy.

    Sola Scriptura!


    ......

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    Thursday, September 18, 2008

    Church Membership, Communion and Accountability

    In reading about Ray Boltz, I came across a church website which in it's welcome stated:

    You will find a warm welcome whoever you are -- straight or gay, white or black, Asian or Hispanic, conservative or liberal, old or young, rich or poor, deaf or hearing, married or single, transgender or any gender identity. Like the early Church, we are a rainbow congregation!


    and under it's beliefs in a section entitled "CREEDS" stated:

    "...Our denominational Statement of Faith is tied to the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, which have served as the basic creeds of Christianity since the early days of the Church. Beyond these basics, however, we leave it to each individual to work out the details of his or her faith in accordance with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Scriptures. Unlike many churches, we do not feel it is healthy or wise to try to compel each individual to believe exactly alike. We respect our congregants and treat them like adults who have both the responsibility and capacity to discern God's will.


    The question I have is: Does the Bible suggest the Church can only go so far as to affirm the teaching taught in the historic creeds, but is not to declare truth beyond those summarized in the creeds especially in areas of ethics and morality? Beyond this, is the church to refrain from any accountability in keeping with those truths?

    (Any mature reader can see where I'm going already, so I'll be brief.)

    1. In order for people to affirm the teaching of the creeds and confess their sin, sin must first be declared and defined for them.
    2. Neither Jesus nor the apostles limited their teaching to the subjects found in the creeds, but openly and often pointed out areas of sin and called for repentance. (This includes areas involving homosexuality).
    3. Not only does the Bible speak to the issue and necessity of discipline, but the apostles and the church exercised discipline holding Christians accountable.

    Summary: While slogans like "No creed but Christ" and "Our denominational Statement of Faith is tied to the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, which have served as the basic creeds of Christianity since the early days of the Church" may sound good to some, even simple inquiry brings their supposed fortress of high mindedness and self justified relevance to come crumbling down in a moment.

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    Book Review of "The Shack"

    FYI - A book review of "The Shack" by William P. Young may be found at Challies Dot Com - Informing the Reforming.

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    Wednesday, September 17, 2008

    Christian Response to Ray Boltz Coming Out of Closet (Ray Boltz' Hope Built on Denial of the "Effects of the Fall")

    “...If this is the way God made me, then this is the way I’m going to live. It’s not like God made me this way and he’ll send me to hell if I am who he created me to be … I really feel closer to God because I no longer hate myself.”


    Quote taken from here.

    Ray Boltz, in coming out of the closet,does the following in the above quote:
    1. Denies Scripture when it speaks to God creating all things "good" and when it speaks to the "fall" of man - by falsely assuming that just because he is the way he is now necessarily means God created him that way.
    2. Commits a fallacy of presumption in that (having FALSELY presumed that God made/created him this way) God would not then send him to hell.
    3. Falsely assumes his subjective feelings of reconciliation are valid apart from the objective truth of the gospel (i.e., that Christ died for sins, and that reconciliation on this basis also involves man confessing his sin nature and sinfulness - as opposed to either assigning responsibility (/blame) to God and/or loving one's nature and accepting it as though God accepts it, when he does not).

    I encourage Ray Boltz to reconsider his assumptions in light of Scripture, for the Scriptures teach something different than he is basing his hope on.

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    Tuesday, September 16, 2008

    A Mixture of Religion and Sinful Practice

    Craig Finn, lead singer and songwriter for Brooklyn's the Hold Steady, writes about drug addiction, casual sex, and Jesus.


    This quote taken from here.

    It's not unusual (though it's inconsistent with the Christian faith) to find those who live a "dual life" ... on the one hand affirming religion and on the other living contrary to true religion.

    Two reasons can stand behind this situation. First, the individual may be lost (even though they affirm religion, ... but may not understand the gospel, etc.) and therefore the practice "contrary to true religion" is consistent with their true nature and condition. On the other hand, the individual may be saved (hence the affirmation of religion) but lack sanctification (hence the practice "contrary to true religion")

    While at times it may be difficult to distinguish, I think the pastoral counsel I heard from John Piper one time is helpful - "it's best to take people wherever they are and lead them from there to a deeper knowledge and relationship with Christ".

    From my expereience, many who find themselves struggling with this situation, though they think they are saved, lack true understanding of the gospel and therefore need Christ. It's a frustrating struggle, but learning about grace based salvation rather than works salvation can be a welcome news.

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    Tuesday, September 09, 2008

    Existentialist Question

    If there is no God, and man is totally free, then why must one "do to others as you would have them do unto you"?


    (Note - if it is recognized that one is free and that one just must accept responsibility and consequences, ... then if one is willing to accept the consequences, then must one "do unto others what they would have others do to them?)

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    Peter Atkins: "Science Can Account For Everything"

    William Lane Craig responds...

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    Sober Perspective on Death from One Whose Experienced It

    The following quotes are from a new nurse on her experience of death, taken from here. Her words powerfully speak for themselves.

    At my job, people die. That’s hardly our intention, but they die nonetheless.


    Usually it’s at the end of a long struggle — we have done everything modern medicine can do and then some, but we can’t save them.


    When George Clooney and Juliana Margulies went through these routines on “E.R.,” it seemed exciting and glamorous. In real life the experience is profoundly sad.


    a death like this is unsettling


    Often at work in the hospital I hear John Donne in my head:

    Death be not proud, though some have called thee

    Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so.

    But after my Condition A I find his words empty.

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    Findings and Recognition (or NOT) of Gender Differences

    This enduring “sex difference in competitiveness,” he concludes, “must be considered a genuine failure for the sociocultural conditions hypothesis” that the personality gap will shrink as new roles open for women.


    When men and women take personality tests, some of the old Mars-Venus stereotypes keep reappearing. On average, women are more cooperative, nurturing, cautious and emotionally responsive. Men tend to be more competitive, assertive, reckless and emotionally flat. Clear differences appear in early childhood and never disappear.


    For social-role psychologists, the bad news is that the variation is going in the wrong direction.


    Quotes taken from As Barriers Disappear, Some Gender Gaps Widen

    Interesting article, particularly in seeing that when the results don't go one's way, then it can't be because there's a basic difference between men and women, so off to the races to try to explain it away anothe way.

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    Monday, September 08, 2008

    Gaia Worship Goes Pentecostal

    OK, maybe it's not right to get joy out of the misery of others, but I just cannot stop laughing at this...


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    Saturday, September 06, 2008

    Can a Woman Serve as Vice President? (Christian Position: Role of Women, Public Office, Church)

    Discussion abounds as to whether Christians are being "inconsistent" while giving support to a woman for a high public office while not allowing women to serve as leaders (pastors, officers) in the church.

    Of the various answers I've read, Al Mohler's is perhaps the best so far, but even he stops short suggesting the Scripture addressess the church but does not speak to civil office (which to a large degree is true).

    Can an answer be given to this question from Scripture? I say Yes. My answer follows:

    A seminary professor (RTS) once put it this way,
    1. In the HOME, God has established men as the head.
    2. In the CHURCH, God has established men as the leaders.
    3. In the WORSHIP of the church (which is central to all we do, & an example to other areas of life) God has established men as the leaders.

    I would add to this:
    4. While God does not specifically speak to other areas of life, these examples certainly set precedent.
    5. At the same time, as with Deborah, while the precedent remains, it does not prohibit a woman's service in leadership especially if called upon because the situation merits it (for example, if men will not step up to serve, etc.)

    This being said, given the current political situation and as with any election, Christians must decide who to vote for not just on this one issue but on a variety of issues.

    With all these factors combined, while there will certainly come assaults of "inconsistency" no matter what Christians do, the Scripture provides justification for Christians to make correct judgments, as we uphold both the dignity of both men and women, the difference in roles, as well as the fact that the merits of each circumstance must be judged individually.


    Note:
    1. This justification is independent of the current election and not subject to the charge of inconsistency.
    2. Christians should avoid the unbiblical position which denies role distinctions between men and women.
    3. Bad fruit can result from false justification and it's communication as well as from bad decisions themselves. Likewise good fruit results from both good decisions and the communication of sound justification.

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    Friday, September 05, 2008

    Adam Savage on Science

    ...science isn't about truth...


    Quote taken from here as Adam Savage advocates evolution over "something else"

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    Thursday, September 04, 2008

    The Naturalist Evolutionary Worldview in a Nutshell

    "All great stories begin with the question, 'What if . . .'" Rudyard Kipling

    "great" as in large.

    "stories" as in fairy tales.

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    Battle over Existence of Truth

    The battle is no longer over whether science or religion will give us truth, but over the very existence of truth.” We desperately need to recognise this, and learn how to wage war on this new front. One of the most dangerous things we can do is continue to concentrate our forces on that side of the city which is no longer under attack.


    Great quote from R.C. Sproul, Jr., which I picked up from here.

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    More Genetic Excuses

    This ought to go over well in a divorce settlement.

    Men's Fidelity Controlled By Cheating Genetics

    What sinful behavior will we make a genetic excuse for next?

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    Polygamy and the Spread of Aids

    Dr Lirwan Mohammed, the executive secretary of the Bauchi Action Committee on Aids, said the polygamous culture of northern Nigeria had increased the spread of the disease.

    Polygamy, as we have discovered, has become a potent source of spreading the HIV scourge in Nigeria," he said.


    Quote taken from here.

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    Wednesday, September 03, 2008

    The Question of Free Will

    Often, unstudied Christians (I speak from experience) misunderstand the questions others ask concerning free will.

    To the Christian, free will often raises the thought of issues related to man's ability and responsibility when it comes to original and actual sin.

    However, for the naturalist / nihilist, while the issue can involve matters related to ability & responsibility (i.e., ethics), it's often more a question of being and meaning, that is... if matter is all there is, and if the cosmos operates with a uniformity of cause and effect in a closed system [some differ on this], and if man is more or less a machine, then the question among naturalists & nihilists when it comes to "free will" deals more with significance, dignity and meaning.

    James Sire in his book The Universe Next Door puts it well when he says:

    "The issue of human freedom goes deeper than these naturalists see... [SURE] I can do what I WANT, but WHAT I WANT is the RESULT of PAST STATES OF AFFAIRS over which ultimately I HAVE NO CONTROL. I did not freely select my particular genetic makeup or my original family environment. By the time I asked whether I was free to act freely, I was so molded by nature and nurture that the very fact that the question occurred to me was determined. That is, my SELF ITSELF was determined by outside forces. I can indeed ask such questions, I can act according to my wants and desires, and I can appear to myself to be free, but it is appearance only. Nietzsche is right: 'the acting man's delusion about himself, his assumption that free will exists, is also part of the calculating mechanism.'" [CAPS, MY emphasis]

    Christians in debating unbelivers over free will must be careful to understand and address what's actually being asked and/or what's actually being addressed, for what's at hand on one level goes deeper than the relationship between man's "free and bound" will even to the issue of the existence of free will.

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    Tuesday, September 02, 2008

    Consistantly Applied Evolutionary Theory

    I mean, it only makes sense that if one can understand evolution, one can guide it...some other disturbing eugenics facts here.

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    Tim Keller @ Google on The Reason for God

    Some may not know this is out:

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