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  • Tuesday, November 18, 2008

    Dr. Al Mohler on the Strategy of Public Relations for a New Spirit for Positive Atheism

    All this makes for interesting reading and media attention, but it's hard to see that the average American will see this new approach as reassuring. The fact remains that atheism, by definition, is a worldview based on the denial of God's existence. Atheists may attempt to create rituals, ceremonies, and practices that mimic Christian traditions, but this serves only to point to the infinite emptiness at the heart of the atheist worldview.

    I think I can understand why atheists are concerned about public relations. A kinder, gentler atheism might sell better in the public square. But it remains what it is -- a worldview that denies the existence of a divine Creator, Redeemer, or Judge.


    Quote taken from here.

    10 comments:

    skeptimal said...

    Faith-based people are also interested in public relations, as we see regularly, but this post raises an interesting issue.

    One of the frequent attacks on atheism, skepticism, freethought, etc. is that "your world view is so empty and meaningless." I disagree with that, of course, but it does beg the question: if it *were* true that there were no gods, would believers rather have reassurance or the truth?

    I don't even know if this is an issue we can discuss, because it would be so offensive to some to consider the possibility of a universe without gods. But *if* there were no gods, would you rather know that or keep your misplaced faith?

    swordbearer said...

    First of all, there is a God, and he is known.

    Second, your question is meaningless as it suggests that apart from God one could know or possess certainty of ultimate reality.

    Again, you borrow from Christianity (even the basics such as knowledge, truth, certainty, faith, etc.) but then try to use them to undermine the very foundation you borrow from.

    jazzycat said...

    Skeptimal,
    If everyone accepted a world-view with no gods, the world would be in even greater chaos. Such a world view would totally exclude a foundation for which to build a system of ethics and morality. Everything would then depend on the prevailing personal preferences of the moment. That is why, with such a world view, we see people favor the murder of innocent unborn babies and yet oppose the death penalty for even the most heinous of crimes. That is why we see people defend the free speech rights of Ward Churchill, but shout Ann Coultler down and assert that her speech is hate speech. That is why it is guilt by association to link Obama to Bill Ayers, but is a matter of grave concern for a Republican to even speak at Bob Jones University.

    You said….
    Faith-based people are also interested in public relations, as we see regularly

    Indeed true and it is sad to see Christians put public relations ahead of the truth of the gospel, however, you should have said some rather than all.

    As to your question! Your question is incorrectly stated. Christianity is based on much more than faith in that we have fulfilled prophecy, an empty grave for skeptics to explain, historical and archeological verification, etc. The naturalists only have the magical nonsense of matter popping into existence from nothing!

    Puritan Lad said...

    Skeptimal,

    How do you define "freethought"? I know that it is a phrase adopted and promoted by atheists, but it seems to me as if their thought process is held prisoner by their naturalistic worldview. The Spiritual world is off limits to "free thought".

    skeptimal said...

    "your question is meaningless as it suggests that apart from God one could know or possess certainty of ultimate reality."

    I didn't buy that line the last time around either. But I assume from your answer that you consider it sin to consider the possibility that gods might not exist.

    skeptimal said...

    JC said: "Christianity is based on much more than faith in that we have fulfilled prophecy, an empty grave for skeptics to explain, historical and archeological verification, etc."

    You have your justifications for believing, but my question had more to do with *if* gods did not exist, would you rather know the truth or remain with your faith.

    "The naturalists only have the magical nonsense of matter popping into existence from nothing!"

    I'd be lying if I said I understood the theory you're referring to, but I have heard about it. I don't know how commonly held the theory is, but it *has* been and will continue to be subjected to peer review and further testing before it is accepted as fact.

    For the world's religions, though, you're not really supposed to question them once you've joined one. Since, at best, only one of the world's religions could be on target, that means that religions generally equate skepticism with sin to keep believers from seeing the truth. It's possible that one or the other religion may be more right than others, but why would any religion that holds the truth have such a problem with people rigorously testing its claims?

    skeptimal said...

    Puritan said: "it seems to me as if their thought process is held prisoner by their naturalistic worldview. The Spiritual world is off limits to "free thought"."

    I can't speak for all skeptics, but I don't consider the spiritual world off limits. From what I've seen, many (if not most) skeptics have seriously considered at least one, if not several religions or sects.

    swordbearer said...

    skeptimal: "I didn't buy that line the last time around either. But I assume from your answer that you consider it sin to consider the possibility that gods might not exist."

    Response: You tell us... is it done in faith? (Romans 14:23)

    Your error is suppose a neutral heart/mind, but that is not what you are born with.

    Theist said...

    I think the atheism vs. Christianity PR battle that Christians should put a greater focus on is the internet battle. I suggest that Christians produce hard hitting articles against atheism such as this atheism article.

    swordbearer said...

    I appreciate your link. There are some good links from it as well.